Beresford, BUSHMASTER dac ... Parte 2

Guarda tutto si può dire del Bushmaster tranne che sia un prodotto artigianale, senza togliere niente a questa categoria, il prodotto si presenta con un livello molto alto di ingegnerizzazione, la scheda madre e uno spettacolo a guardarla, layout super ottimizzato, sono riuscito io che sono un profano a distinguere tutti gli stadi ed a seguirne il circuito.  

Biagio ha scritto: .....sono riuscito io che sono un profano a distinguere tutti gli stadi ed a seguirne il  circuito.  

fino a perdene le tracce... in costa azzurra....

lello64 ha scritto:[quote="Biagio .....sono riuscito io che sono un profano a distinguere tutti gli stadi ed a seguirne il  circuito.  

fino a perdene le tracce... in costa azzurra....[/quote]


E' molto raffinato, predilige luoghi di classe, ma nel Salento torna sempre volentieri.

One reason I would never buy a Ferrari is because it breaks down so much even though it is hand built and cost a lot of money.

But comng back to the question of the capacitor: as I mentioned to all those who needed that modification, the new firmware code needed that capacitor to be placed in a different configuration. It has nothing to do with anything else. Software coded DACs do crash and then it might require that the code is reset. But the original firmware did not have a manual reset function to reboot the machine. It relied on its own automatic reboot. The later DACs have a manual reset function, which has been added to the instructions.

But this highlights the dangers of asking customers to carry out a check and even update something. People don't expect that sort of trust from the manufacturer. Most users are considered to be idiots who only know how to switch on their equipment and operate a voluem control. But I consider my customers to be intelligent people who can follow a clear set of instructions and be trusted to know how to swap over a firmware chip in a socket. Otherwise you would need to buy a new DAC with any new features, instead of being able to upgrade your existing one with extra features when they become avaialble. I also give people individual attention with specific instructions for their case. But discussing it on a forum as if it is a general solution is another danger. Too much support comes across as if the DAC is not good enough. Maybe less support and get customers to try different speakers, amplifiers, and cables would be more exciting. Then after they are tired after a week I tell them to send teh DAC back so I cna see if I cna find something wrong. Afterwards I send it back and say there is nothing wrong. The customer tries it and it now works fine. So the customer thinks he is going mad or made a mistake.
Maybe that is a better way for Italian customers. I don't have customers in other countries posting my emails on forums. It is new to me that nothing is private and confidential in Italy. What happened to Omertà?

StanleyB ha scritto:
Maybe that is a better way for Italian customers. I don't have customers in other countries posting my emails on forums. It is new to me that nothing is private and confidential in Italy. What happened to Omertà?  

Ygbkm! Right?

StanleyB ha scritto:One reason I would never buy a Ferrari is because it breaks down so much even though it is hand built and cost a lot of money.

But comng back to the question of the capacitor: as I mentioned to all those who needed that modification, the new firmware code needed that capacitor to be placed in a different configuration. It has nothing to do with anything else. Software coded DACs do crash and then it might require that the code is reset. But the original firmware did not have a manual reset function to reboot the machine. It relied on its own automatic reboot. The later DACs have a manual reset function, which has been added to the instructions.

But this highlights the dangers of asking customers to carry out a check and even update something. People don't expect that sort of trust from the manufacturer. Most users are considered to be idiots who only know how to switch on their equipment and operate a voluem control. But I consider my customers to be intelligent people who can follow a clear set of instructions and be trusted to know how to swap over a firmware chip in a socket. Otherwise you would need to buy a new DAC with any new features, instead of being able to upgrade your existing one with extra features when they become avaialble. I also give people individual attention with specific instructions for their case. But discussing it on a forum as if it is a general solution is another danger. Too much support comes across as if the DAC is not good enough. Maybe less support and get customers to try different speakers, amplifiers, and cables would be more exciting. Then after they are tired after a week I tell them to send teh DAC back so I cna see if I cna find something wrong. Afterwards I send it back and say there is nothing wrong. The customer  tries it and it now works fine. So the customer thinks he is going mad or made a mistake.
Maybe that is a better way for Italian customers. I don't have customers in other countries posting my emails on forums. It is new to me that nothing is private and confidential in Italy. What happened to Omertà?  

Sinceramente credo che Lei farebbe un'impressione migliore parlando solo dei suoi prodotti.
 

 

sonic63 ha scritto:
Sinceramente credo che Lei farebbe un'impressione migliore parlando solo dei suoi prodotti.
 

Do you really believe that readers of Tforum are only interested about reading what a manufacturer has to say about his products? Wel you can do that by visiting the website of the manufacturer and reading all about it there. How boring a life you suggest for forum members to adopt. A sterile forum with no fun and emotion. You suggest just hard seling and marketing talk. Is that what TForum is all about? A marketing place for manufacturers and retailers to talk only about how you should spend your money and with who.
My time is wasted here if that is all that I need to do. I might as well put it all on my websiet and put a link to it fo rpeople to read the facts.

StanleyB ha scritto:

sonic63 ha scritto:
Sinceramente credo che Lei farebbe un'impressione migliore parlando solo dei suoi prodotti.
 

Do you really believe that readers of Tforum are only interested about reading what a manufacturer has to say about his products? Wel you can do that by visiting the website of the manufacturer and reading all about it there. How boring a life you suggest for forum members to adopt. A sterile forum with no fun and emotion. You suggest just hard seling and marketing talk. Is that what TForum is all about? A marketing place for manufacturers and retailers to talk only about how you should spend your money and with who.
My time is wasted here if that is all that I need to do. I might as well put it all on my websiet and put a link to it fo rpeople to read the facts.

Vedo che non ha capito il senso di quello che ho scritto, mi rendo conto del problema della lingua ma sicuramente qualche "cavalier servente" Le farà avere rapidamente una traduzione.
A presto
 

Sonic stai attento a quello che dici  

@Stan
private and confidential the instructions on how to update a chip?
We're not talking about you as a person, but reporting to the owners of the old version that his replacement also involves a new way of using the DAC .
For example, I do not ever turn off the system, but now, thanks to your information, I will certainly do so. This, as well as the inclusion of the reset, I do not seem sensitive information that may harm you or your work. Here on the forum people are very happy with the quality of your creations and for the fast service that you offer us . What can be wrong with all this? Maybe some opinion is not very respectful or used in ways to say that google has difficulties to interpret semantically. You people have got John Cleese, we have had Alberto Sordi. the difference between our two peoples is all about, and I think who know this is not a mistake but is an asset. And you know, it's hot here with us, life is lighter, drink wine and there are many beautiful brunettes

mauz ha scritto:
@Stan
private and confidential the instructions on how to update a chip?

Sure. You have all the Chinese copy cats and others reading this and thinking: why don't we do the same and build our products like that?
When I introduced twin potical and twon coax inputs to the market in the TC-7500 there was nobody else who could do that for below U$2000. Many peopel said it was not needed. Customers only wanted one input. But since then just about everybody ahs folowed me.
It is not good for business when other people copy me and then use their big name to pretend they have a better product. All my customers know you can't buy a better sounding DAC than the Bushamster MKII right now on the market at any price. But there are a lot more customers who don't hve the MKII but who know my level of support and speed of delivery is also better than any other DAC supplier in the world. I even challenged on a forum once for any other DAC supplier to say that they had better support and delivery speed than me. So far not a single company has been able to show they can do better.

Sonic se per caso la tua intenzione era di offendere me, potevi farlo direttamente senza nasconderti dietro cavalier servente, ormai su questo forum ci sono abituato, potevi anche non farti scrupoli.

E' anche vero che io sono una persona per bene, come ho pensato sino ad oggi che anche tu lo fossi, ed è anche vero che io aldilà dei moralismi, non ho mai avuto scatolette da vendere, ed ho solo affermato quello di cui ero convinto, parlando di un prodotto che ritengo superiore alla media, e di un servizio post vendita mai incontrato prima.

Questo lo affermo a testa alta e in tutta onesta, poi chiunque compreso te può pensarla come vuole, spero solo che prima di parlare si accerti però dei fatti di cui spesso si vanvera.

Salve Stan,

non entro in merito a spiegazioni tecniche riguardanti capacitori e chips , però mi sorprende tanto questo tuo riferimento all'OMERTA' , che interpretando il tuo pensiero ,bada bene, è un sentimento che agli italiani non manca . 
ma penso anche che sia un sentimento che , come la gelosia , oltre un certo limite , porta  a fare più danni  che benefici.
non puoi sperare di entrare in uno stadio dove si gioca un derby e pretendere di non trovare un tifoso della squadra avversaria , allo stesso modo partecipare ad un forum dove proponi i tuoi nuovi modelli e non aspettarti chiarimenti tecnici e dubbi costruttivi.
Nel mio caso , ho acquistato un tuo dac due anni  fà , solo grazie alla buona recensione del prodotto da parte di un rivenditore italiano,e ne sono rimasto soddisfatto pienamente al punto di rinnovarTi la fiducia , pertanto condivido senza esitazione quello che tecnicamente proponi , ma un pò meno il contorno.  
a presto!

Per quanto riguarda l'omerta la Concordia  e roba simile , leggevo l' altro giorno su un famoso forum Olandese alcune alcuni stereotipi su gli italiani è il lavoro, e parlavano niente di meno di HIFI 2000 leader mondiale per  il suo settore, e della scarsa secondo loro, propensione al lavoro degli italiani.

Cosa fare se non sorridere, oltre ovviamente ad una sentimento di rabbia di fronte a  tanta male informazione e spesso superficialità nel generalizzare  quelli che sono luoghi comuni sugli italiani.

Io sono orgoglioso di essere italiano, e sono orgoglioso di quanto gli italiani hanno fatto nel mondo con il loro duro lavoro, per arricchire economicamente ma anche di valori morali le comunità di cui sono stati ospiti a volte maltrattati.

Non cado neanche io nelle generalizzazioni, sapendo che non è tutto rose e fiori per quanto ci riguarda, consapevole che anche altri in altre parti del mondo non possano affermare la stessa cosa per tutti i loro connazionali.

Italiano lavoratore scrupoloso come tanti,che dignitosamente con la fatica tentano di non far mancare il necessario alla famiglia e alla comunità, ma comunque cittadino del mondo con i pregi e difetti di questa strana umanità, eccellenze e vergogne comuni.

StanleyB ha scritto:

mauz ha scritto:
@Stan
private and confidential the instructions on how to update a chip?

Sure. You have all the Chinese copy cats and others reading this and thinking: why don't we do the same and build our products like that?
When I introduced twin potical and twon coax inputs to the market in the TC-7500 there was nobody else who could do that for below U$2000. Many peopel said it was not needed. Customers only wanted one input. But since then just about everybody ahs folowed me.
It is not good for business when other people copy me and then use their big name to pretend they have a better product. All my customers know you can't buy a better sounding DAC than the Bushamster MKII right now on the market at any price. But there are a lot more customers who don't hve the MKII but who know my level of support and speed of delivery is also better than any other DAC supplier in the world. I even challenged on a forum once for any other DAC supplier to say that they had better support and delivery speed than me. So far not a single company has been able to show they can do better.  

but this is something we know very well, at least for the owners of the Bushmaster. To get you another example, before the release of MKII has not seen a single BM offered for sale on our market. Today, every day, you will see a new ad for the sale for the MKI or the 7520. First we have never seen one. Why? because everyone wants to go to the MKII. If we were not convinced of the goodness of your product this will certainly not happen. Look, do not tell you to flatter, but my three heroes among designers in hifi are: Joe Akroyd, Richard Dunn and Stanley Beresford. Really.
Nobody is telling you that your products are not good but what you're saying is that you're too touchy (perhaps due to google) and that you should not bring up the Mafia or the Costa Concordia, which are local pain on which joke is difficult when we do not know better.
as regards instead the information on how the electronics are constructed there is no remedy. Here we'll post pictures of the interior of the equipment that interest us and we discuss them without noticing any problems. I'm sorry, this is the market of users and this is what we need

@Biagio
e molla, non sono cose così serie da farsi impettire, dai

Ti sono sembrato impettito? Ma no dai... 

Biagio De Simone ha scritto: Ti sono sembrato impettito? Ma no dai... 

urca!  

mauz ha scritto:

Biagio De Simone ha scritto: Ti sono sembrato impettito? Ma no dai... 

urca!  

Allora mi scuso non era mia intenzione.  

StanleyB ha scritto:
..Maybe that is a better way for Italian customers. I don't have customers in other countries posting my emails on forums. It is new to me that nothing is private and confidential in Italy. What happened to Omertà?  

Hi Mr.Stanley, I was a happy owner of a Bushmaster MKI, and now I'm a happier owner of a MKII. Please keep on with your excellent work of building products with a very very high "value for money", together with your quick and responsive almost personal post sale support.
I just wanted to suggest you to be similarly precise in your choice of italian words.
In fact the word "omertà" is ever only used when talking about people remaining silent because they are under a threat, very often a life threat, in conjunction with criminal organization such as mafia, camorra or ndrangheta.

The right word you should have used in this context is "riservatezza" which simply stands for "confidentiality".

Franz

Grazie Franz per aver chiarito, purtroppo il traduttore di google fa spesso pessimi servizi e genera fraintendimenti. Forse abbiamo trovato il "cavalier servente". 

ho capito,   
era un modo come un'altro per affrontare un tema della politica che coinvolge tutto il mondo in questo momento.    

Stan , che senso ha parlare di omertà e riservatezza se siamo tutti spiati ???  
se si vuole oggi , attraverso facebok,twitter, linkedin etc etc , ci si contano i peli del culo da una parte all'altra del mondo,   

adriano gaddari ha scritto:ho capito,   
era un modo come un'altro per affrontare un tema della politica che coinvolge tutto il mondo in questo momento.    

Stan , che senso ha parlare di omertà e riservatezza se siamo tutti spiati ???  
se si vuole oggi , attraverso facebok,twitter, linkedin etc etc , ci si contano i peli del culo da una parte all'altra del mondo,   

Anche questo argomento, come il discorso sulle Banche succhiasangue, meriterebbe necessiterebbe di un thread apposito.

franz159 ha scritto:

StanleyB ha scritto:
..Maybe that is a better way for Italian customers. I don't have customers in other countries posting my emails on forums. It is new to me that nothing is private and confidential in Italy. What happened to Omertà?  

Hi Mr.Stanley, I was a happy owner of a Bushmaster MKI, and now I'm a happier owner of a MKII. Please keep on with your excellent work of building products with a very very high "value for money", together with your quick and responsive almost personal post sale support.
I just wanted to suggest you to be similarly precise in your choice of italian words.
In fact the word "omertà" is ever only used when talking about people remaining silent because they are under a threat, very often a life threat, in conjunction with criminal organization such as mafia, camorra or ndrangheta.

The right word you should have used in this context is "riservatezza" which simply stands for "confidentiality".

Franz

Scambiare una gaffe (a voler essere clementi) per una scelta sbagliata di parole pare tanto buonistico quanto offensivo dell'intelligenza.... Gli strumenti odierni per quanto rozzi, non fanno simili errori.
Se vuoi usare confidentiality usi confidentiality, se vuoi usare omertà vuoi dire tutt'altro.
https://translate.google.it/?hl=en&tab=wT#en/it/confidentiality
http://www.wordreference.com/iten/omert%C3%A0

Iamme guagliò... manc sol' a mafia... a pizza, 'i spaghetti e o' mandolino...

vastx ha scritto:

franz159 ha scritto:Hi Mr.Stanley, I was a happy owner of a Bushmaster MKI, and now I'm a happier owner of a MKII. Please keep on with your excellent work of building products with a very very high "value for money", together with your quick and responsive almost personal post sale support.
I just wanted to suggest you  to be similarly precise in your choice of italian words.
In fact the word "omertà" is ever only used when talking about people remaining silent because they are under a threat, very often a life threat, in conjunction with criminal organization such as mafia, camorra or ndrangheta.

The right word you should have used in this context is "riservatezza" which simply stands for "confidentiality".

Franz

Scambiare una gaffe (a voler essere clementi) per una scelta sbagliata di parole pare tanto buonistico quanto offensivo dell'intelligenza.... Gli strumenti odierni per quanto rozzi, non fanno simili errori.
Se vuoi usare confidentiality usi confidentiality, se vuoi usare omertà vuoi dire tutt'altro.
https://translate.google.it/?hl=en&tab=wT#en/it/confidentiality
http://www.wordreference.com/iten/omert%C3%A0

Iamme guagliò... manc sol' a mafia... a pizza, 'i spaghetti e o' mandolino...

quoto vastx 1000 volte. questo signore costruirá anche prodotti concorrenziali ma dal punto di vista della comunicazione è un disastro. a voler essere clementi.....